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| solarpanelsforhomes |
Posted: Mar 11 2005, 06:23 PM
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I can see the government getting behind dsti and other alt energy stocks more and more. It's good for the american people as it creates good productive jobs. The united states is getting closer and closer to an energy crisis buying suvs and paying no attention to the fact that worldwide oil demand is increasing at an alarming rate. Not to mention the air quality and global warming problems that our suvs are creating. I see, dsti, wwat, and zapz all as great companies that America needs to start investing in. Here's the links, check them out for yourself
http://www.worldwater.com/ http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=WWAT.OB Solar panels to pump water for farming http://www.zapworld.com http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ZAPZ.OB Sells the 60 mile per gallon smart car http://www.daystartech.com http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DSTI Thin film solar panels |
| cosmo |
Posted: Mar 11 2005, 10:25 PM
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Its unfortunate that the gasoline supply is a limited resource that when used is gone. As you say conservation of the resource would help. The increasing demand on the supply and the limited amount in the hollow earth gas tank looks like a problem that is not going away unless an alternative can be found. I was very encouraged by ALTI battery story and remain hopefull that a solution can be found before the supply / demand equation gets much further out of balance.
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| IIC |
Posted: Mar 11 2005, 11:37 PM
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I just went to http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
In 1976 I paid .69 gal for gas...2 days ago I paid 2.28 gal...Less than the rate of inflation...According to the calc. at this site I should have paid 2.31...What is the BIG Deal??? I think the Big Deal is the volatility...Just like the markets in many other things. I own 2 SUV's and I have a Co. SUV...I had a '78 Camaro that got 8 mpg City/11 Highway...Am I better off w/ 2 Escapes that get over 20 mpg and an XTERRA that gets 14 mpg...I think so. -------------------- |
| cosmo |
Posted: Mar 12 2005, 12:11 AM
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I believe in 1976 there was a gasoline crisis that caused a tremendous increase in the price. A more realistic comparison would be the period shortly before that when gas was 27 cents per gallon for premium. |
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| longshot |
Posted: Mar 12 2005, 09:18 AM
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When comparing the price of gas in 1976 to now, you should subtract all the taxes that have been added on by the gov't.
How much did you pay for a car, house or a Doctor's visit in 1976. What do they cost today? As the price of oil goes higher it will make alternate forms of energy cost effective. |
| IIC |
Posted: Mar 12 2005, 12:36 PM
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I have nothing against trying to develop alternate energy. But I think there are some scare tactics going on. How much oil is there? Will we run out in the next 200 years? I have no idea...But I can see the point of developing alternate forms of energy...but I can't buy the increased price of gas complaint.
Adusted to 1996 dollars the price at 2.07 gal today is equivalent to 1.70 gal in 1996...which is right where it was. Lets use 1996 dollars to compare gas prices back to 1949....The reason I'm using these dates is because of the chart below....which only goes to 2003...but I converted the figure for 2005 using the CPI on the present price of 2.07 back to 1996. In 1949 the price of gas was 1.55 gal in 1996 dollars...so, after 56 years the price has increased .15 gal in 1996 dollars or 10%. If the price of gas followed the CPI from 1949 till 2005 the price of gas would be 2.08 gal...Pretty darn close, isn't it? My calcs are not exact because I have to eyeball the chart...But the reality is that gas is not overpriced vis-a-vis inflation over 56 years. ![]() Here's where I get my CPI numbers: ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt Here is where the chart came from: http://www.cato.org/dailys/09-06-03.html Speaking of inflation...there are many factors involved and everyone is not affected equally. There is also a domino effect as the price of one thing affects another. But let's take an example...Housing has far exceeded the rate of inflation...but the average wage earner who has owned their house for 30 years is in great shape. The avg wage earner who is a first time home buyer today must sink a much larger percentage of their income into it. I'm a lot more concerned about lack of affordable housing than I am about gas prices. Look at Telephone service...I pay 48.95 a mo. + taxes for unlimited long distance anywhere is the US. 10 years ago my phone bill averaged over 150 mo. -------------------- |
| solarpanelsforhomes |
Posted: Apr 19 2005, 10:35 AM
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Looks like the market really like the news.
Here's the news that is moving ZAPZ: ZAP to Make Announcement Regarding Smart Car at Santa Ana City Hall, April 19 Friday April 15, 3:11 pm ET - Test Drive, Ribbon Cutting With Santa Ana Mayor, April 19 SANTA ANA, Calif., April 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ZAP (OTC Bulletin Board: ZAPZ - News), pioneering the next generation of advanced transportation and energy technologies, says it will be making an announcement regarding the Smart Car Americanized by ZAP on April 19 in conjunction with Santa Ana Mayor Miguel A. Pulido and ZAP CEO Steve Schneider. WHAT: Test Drive at City Hall, Announcement regarding Smart Car, Ribbon Cutting, Parade of Smart Cars Americanized by ZAP WHEN: Tuesday, April 19, 11:00 AM to 1:00 PM WHERE: Test drive from Santa Ana City Hall to Smart Car conversion facility Santa Ana City Hall, 20 Civic Center Plaza, 714-647-6900 G&K Automotive, 2530 South Birch Street, 714-444-9119 (See www.zapworld.com for Map of Event) WHO: Miguel A. Pulido, Santa Ana Mayor Steve Schneider, CEO of ZAP WHY: Announcement regarding latest developments of Smart Car coming to the U.S. VISUALS: Key Hand-Over, Test Ride with Santa Ana Mayor and ZAP CEO Smart Car available for test rides to the Media Ribbon-Cutting, Smart Car Parade at Conversion Facility INFO: www.zapworld.com/about/news.asp ZAP Alex Campbell, 707-525-8658 Ext. 241 (Media Relations) acampbell@zapworld.com or Trilogy Capital Partners, Inc. Paul Karon, 800-342-1467 (Investor Relations) paul@trilogy-capital.com |
| solarpanelsforhomes |
Posted: Apr 19 2005, 02:04 PM
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news should be out any minute now. Buy ZAPZ now and double your money by the end of the day.
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| milo |
Posted: Apr 19 2005, 02:14 PM
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Sounds like a "pump" to me ... a $3 stock with 100K shares of activity with little institutional involvement ... also the promise of a 100% return in a day is certainly "bait" especially when the stocks is down for the day ...
Personally I would be looking at precious metals today (they had a follow through on a declining dollar) ... additionally I would be leary of this subscriber's future posts about stocks ... |
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